He is a ghost. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Summon Arniel's Shade, for 60 secs; Perks . Arniel Gane didn't share a telepathic link with anyone or anything so only he was removed from existence. If you do "Arniel's Endeavor" it's a College of Winterhold side quest in Skyrim, Bethesda shows you what happened to the dwarves. So the theory goes that when Arniel hit the thing with the other thing, his soul leapt to the closest divine thing, which happened to be The Last Dragonborn, being a shard of Aka (and also a Shezzarine in some theories). He did something pretty similar to what the Dwemer did. What do I have to do to make him take the cogs? At all. Anyone have any idea what happened to him? Arniel not having anyone to link to probably has no effect on whether what happened to him is different from the dwemer or not. I don't know what either of those words mean, but they seemed to fit. Being a breton - Arniel had the mixed blood of Men and Mer. I never thought so. I explained why a long time ago, so if you would just let me find a quote... Arniel Gane was hopelessly out of his depth. Perhaps his soul was bound to the Dragonborn, but that just means that his 'soulskin' remains in the dream, whereas he is departed. Kagrenac uses three tools on the heart. They were trying to build there own mechanical God, by doing so they accidentally sent themselves to a different dimension. While its never explicitly revealed/confirmed what exactly happened, they disappeared after Kagrenac used his tools on the Heart of Lorkhan. The Nerevarine reports this back to the Archmage of the Mages Guild where nobody does anything useful with that info until Skyrim, when Arniel Gane attempts and presumably fails to replicate Kagrenac's actions with a depowered Keening. he hasn't taken the cogs. Without a Numidium or other target, much less the proper Tonal Architecture, he had no hope of recreating the Dwemeri Extinction. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. 2- He is kinda OP, the ice knockback effect permastunned a dragon (the same dragon he turned into an ash pile). 200: I've given Arniel Gane the Dwarven cogs he asked for, and he was quite grateful. Hmm. Press J to jump to the feed. At the second pillar you will reach an apparent dead end, but the ramp down is on the right hand side, hidden in darkness if your settings are too dark. In there you can see many ash piles which suggests that their bodies remained where they were (though turned to ash). All the Dwemer died in that exact moment with no traces to be found as well, and they -all- died (even those not trying to syphon the heart of Lorkhan) because they are telepathically linked. Go find and speak to Arniel Gane, who will ask for help with a special project of his. When the Dwemer disappeared, it was on account of Kagrenac using all three tools on the heart. A subreddit dedicated to the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. With Numidium lacking and the ritual only a recreation (no sunder, no actual heart, etc. Arniel's Endeavor. They found piles of ash next to weapons, in Beds, and everywhere a dwemer would have been standing in the ruins of Bamz-Amschend in Mournhold. He is a Breton mage, a member of the College of Winterhold who leads an expedition to the tomb of Saarthal. Serana was wrong. level 2 He's suggested that there may be more I can help with in the future. Therefore, you may prefer to instead keep the rings with their +20 Transmogrification is the total change of form, generally used to denote transformation from human to non-human, typically animal but generally "grotesque". Was he Transmogrified? I think people assume WAY too much about the Dwemer and what/how they did it. I believe that what Arniel recreated was a Dwemer secret method used to power their creations. The surprising thing is that anything happened at all. His midium. It was laughably inaccurate. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He's suggested that there may be more I can help with in the future. Pick 'em up anywhere and bring them back. Arniel's goal is to recreate the event that caused the Dwemer to disappear. Where did he go? The Gem duplicated in the second convector, leave one in the convector and go to the third convector (even though it says Return the gem to Arniel, remember you've only used two.) The Dragonborn will witness this unexpected occurrence, when given the spell to summon the apparition, which is called Summon Arniel's Shade. I'll read over it and get back to u when more time I have. Kagrenac turned the ignition on a prototype car with some unusual additions and got an unexpected result. He didn't use Wraithguard to keep him safe from Keening, and the Warped Soul Gem is not Heart of Lorkhan. At the very least, the black soul gems you can create in Cyrodiil probably give their souls to the God of Worms since it's his magic and celestial event that lets you create them. But when I cast the flame spell on the second convector (more than 10 seconds) nothing happened. and why they disappeared. We basically know the outcome, and the reason, but the methodology (metaphysically) is so speculative. So I figured that since the deeper mysteries of Aetherius are not my area of expertise, and probably my weakness in the Lore, I'd reach out to my fellow scholars and see if they could help me with their opinions. Part 2 (MGRArniel02) 10: Arniel has asked for more help with his project, though this time the request is very different. He was Soul Trapped, but Bethesda was too lazy to add him in the Soul Cairn. As I was playing a bit of Skyrim, I was taking part in a bit of an interesting quest. /r/teslore is a subreddit dedicated to the discussion and creation of the vast lore of The Elder Scrolls. Also upgrades Arniel\\'s abilities. Not his soul, not his mind and not his spirit. Allow me a moment to just describe Sunder and Keening. The first time Arniel Gane ventures outside the College is when Tolfdir suggests that you and the other apprentices help out with the excavation of Saarthal, one of the oldest ruins in Skyrim.At that point Arniel will be teleported to a spot inside the excavation site. I thought it wasn't necessarily the DB who completes the side quests, though? It results with Arniel becoming a ghost himself, but I believe that he somewhat succeeded in his experiment. Gane used only one. His body was annihilated and he had his soul bound to the LDB since he's basically a living soul gem. His body was destroyed and his soul cast loose. If I were a god I would've killed him simply for his impetuousness. To answer what happened with the Dwemer you need a why, not just a what. He knew exactly WHAT the dwemer did, just didn't understand the (meta)physics behind the whole process. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Ensure Arniel's spell is the only spell equipped (i.e. All the Dwemer died in that exact moment with no traces to be found as well, and they -all- died (even those not trying to syphon the heart of Lorkhan) because they are telepathically linked. To leave it as a matter of Keening as this soul-binding thing without further implication is not going to cut it. Discombobulated? So what happened to the Dwemer? The quest marker is right on his head too. Keening, Sunder and Wraithguard are the three legendary tools created to control the Heart of Lorkhan. As in, he was teleported to that realm of the void which has previously been named plot device. I say partially as he doesn't really seem to have much intelligence after the fact. Summoner, Atromancy and Necromancy have no effect. Arniel threw a lit match in a can of gasoline and leaned in real close to see what was going to happen. ". Effects . They are trapped in an area very similar to what the Catholic call "Purgatory" and they lost their physical form. This mod replaces the Conjur Spell Summon Arniel Shade, and moves it into the powers section. 1- We don't know for sure if the dwemer died or not, they could have ascended to godhood, been warped to another realm, who knows? Arniel Gane's mission bug in Skyrim PS3?? For the shade's stats, see its individual page. Basically, he recreated the Dwemer Dissapearance, sadly with the 'malfunction' (which I assume to be a fail safe designed to stop people ascending to god hood like the Tribunal) which pretty much killed him. I brought 10 dwemer cogs to Arniel Gane in my inventory. ), Arniel succeeded in binding himself to the nearest divine being - the Dragonborn. Arniel goes to Soul Cairn, considering it involves a Soul Gem. At any rate, everyone else seems to have it mostly covered - Arniel partially succeeded in replicating the Dwemer removal. He appears to have succeeded in unmaking himself and, rather than loosing his spirit to Oblivion, Aetherius or any other plane, he appears to have partially bound it to the Dragonborn. That it would go catastrophically wrong was the second most likely outcome - the most likely being that nothing would happen. Arniel Gane attempted this interaction in smaller scale, and the result was the same, but instead of binding his soul to the disappeared Numidium his soul became bound to the nearest source of power, aka the Dragonborn, and that's why his shade can be cast to help the LDB in their deeds. The Dwarves, like Arniel Gane, are trapped in the place that exists between Oblivion/Aetheruis and Nirn. That tells us that his experiment didn't quite go how the original did. Arniel threw a lit match in a can of gasoline and leaned in real close to see what was going to happen. Press J to jump to the feed. Arniel Gane and his "endeavors" are another example of this. He was missing 2 items, one was barely working, he was using a warped soul gem, he lacks the Dwemer genius and tonal architecture knowledge. I'm Blackfyre and I'd like to talk about...Arniel Gane. Twin Souls only works if Arniel's Shade is summoned first. Arniel used a broken tool on a soulgem. Also, at the end of that quest I think he becomes summonable, right? Not all the dwemer are dead though, there is that one that has corpus and is still "alive". His soul is bound to us, rather than being recycled in the Dreamsleeve or given to Herma Mora. So, when a sub gradient of a divine comes into being that's a big deal right? Once you have entered, ask Tolfdir what you can do to help and he will say: "Ah, yes. Arniel Gane, who is researching what happened to the Dwemer, had Keening brought to Skyrim during the quest Arniel's Endeavor. If he doesn't, there are some known bugs with the scene: Isn't the Dragonborn a part of Akatosh, like the rest of the dragons? The Fate of Arniel Gane » Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:05 pm . Dead. He should immediately use the dagger for some magic and he will "explode," dropping the dagger on the floor. Are there any other references hinting that Keening was broken? His goal is to use it in an experiment to … Objective 10: Deliver ten cogs to Arniel Gane. I've just reached the end of his quest. Arniel Gane asks you first to find 10 Dwarven (Dwemer) cogs. No dialogue options come up or anything. Keening was not developed specifically to bind a soul to Numidium - well maybe it was - but its properly described purpose was to manipulate the Heart of Lorkhan with the other tools. Thanks for your in depth reply. 2- Not all dwemer are gone, Yagram still remains as he was in another realm at the time and not affected by it. I usually wouldn't care but it will not leave my quest diary. The first time Arniel Gane ventures outside the College is when Tolfdir suggests that you and the other apprentices help out with the excavation of Saarthal, one of the oldest ruins in Skyrim.At that point Arniel will be teleported to a spot inside the excavation site. Arniel's Endeavor is an optional quest from the College of Winterhold. I tried dropping them on the ground infront of him and nothing happened still. Someone named Arniel Gane even tried to recreate the disappearance using Kagrenac's tools, and he himself disappeared. Unless their thralls look like Wrathmen (? The power of the blade you receive suggests he's dead, but he talks about solving the fate of the Dwemer, so maybe he's been sent to the dimension they were sent to? Notes . This may not have a real answer, but any reasonable speculation would be appreciated. is he just killed or is he put in contact with the Dwemer? Or maybe he cut himself out of the dream. Whatever happened to him didn't happen to the Dwemer. But without the proper training, proper understanding, proper tools and proper energy sources, the end results were unpredictable. Really? Even the other convectors won't heat up now. If you do the quest for Arniel Gane at the College of Winterhold he will help you explain it better. If I remember right, he was experimenting with Keening, trying to figure out what happened when Kagrenac used the tools on the Heart(?) Like really sharp deep. Just a few details/bug reports. Praise Reman and all his little woodland creatures! 3- In Tribunal there is a dwemer ruin that has been untouched for millennia. I'm not sure if he's a familiar that can be pulled from his respective afterlife, a psychic imprint the LDB can call that isn't really Gane, or if Gane literally lives inside of the LDB and he pushes him out when he's summoned. Filled soul gems can be found in dwemer automatons. Arniel is located in the first room on the right on the second floor of the Hall of Attainment. have a fist on the other hand) It then worked for me. Basically, he's dead. If summoned second, it will replace the first summon. Arniel's understanding was lacking. Since we barely know what the Heart of Lorkhan is, we can't draw too many conclusions about Keening. Arniel's Endeavor Part I. The warped soul gem that was struck was his medium. Summon Arniel's Shade is a Conjuration spell that summons the Shade of Arniel Gane to aid you in combat. Kagrenac turned the ignition on a prototype car with some unusual additions and got an unexpected result. Once you have entered, ask Tolfdir what you can do to help and he will say: "Ah, yes. Hmm, interesting, as well as somewhat sinister. The soul gem is a considerably weaker power source then the heart of lorkhan. Wacking a soulgem with Keening and then...The ending of it was a bit of a conundrum, eh? Part 2 (MGRArniel02) 10: Arniel has asked for more help with his project, though this time the request is very different. Arniel Gane's experiment in Skyrim was a half-assed attempt at recreating what Tiber Septim did to activate Numidium, not what Kagrenac did with the Heart of Lorkhan. At any point after finding the Ancient Amulet, you can return to Arniel Gane and give him any Enchanted Rings that you have found. Arniel Gane is a non playable character that appears in the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. It is not, by any means whatsoever, an accurate recreation of the Dwemer's experiments with the HoL. Arniel's Shade is a ghost of the College of Winterhold mage Arniel Gane, who was destroyed or possibly transported to another plane at the conclusion of the quest " Arniel's Endeavor." Honestly, Arniel Gane disappeared because that's what happened to the Dwemer so … ooohhh… mystery. 4- The telepathic link appears to hold no impact on the disappearance beyond Kargenac using the link to take all dwemer with him. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Whenever I talk to him he just says I DONT WANNA LOSE MY REASERCH WE GOTTA SAVE THE COLLEGE. A shade, a shadow of what was once Arniel Gane. Arniel used a broken tool on a soulgem. Anyway, I tried fast traveling a few times, walking in and out of inns and cities and I also restarted my console. That's why you can summon his shade, because it is bound to you the same way the Dwemer are bound to the Numidium. Arniel Gane had one of these tools, which, given that he didn't die by simply holding it without Wraithguard, was clearly broken. He takes all the rings from you, but he is more concerned with the mess you have made than with the new artifacts, and does not give you any reward (not even a boost to his disposition). Arniel Gane didn't share a telepathic link with anyone or anything so only he was removed from existence. Until we get an official response, who knows? It is likely that this... 'impurity' rendered him a 'unique' race, relative to that of the Dwemer's genetic homogeneity. For The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Arniel Gane has stolen Wuuthrad! Is Dovahkiin divine? Hmm. Two tools, of such immense and catastrophic power that they require a third, protective one to even be touched, designed by an ancient genius to manipulate the heart of a dead god which anchors the spatial foundations of reality, through a fusion of science, magic and acoustics that no living mortal can rightfully claim to comprehend. You get the dagger on the last part of quest Arniel's Endeavor but you have to deliver it to Arniel Gane at the end of a quest. He disappears into the soul gem, right? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Both disappeared. Follow the walkways to the other side. Objective 10: Deliver ten cogs to Arniel Gane. ), I won't assume a necromancer works the IMs. Kagrenac uses three tools on the heart. I suspect Bethesda want to leave the exact reasons for Dwemer Disappearance (and thus Arniel's disappearance) a mystery, because it's just that, a fantastic mystery. I think of it exactly like the Numidium's activation by the dwemer, but on a significantly reduced scale. What happened to him? 1- Arniel turned a dragon into an ash pile, and i got no soul because of that. Keening cuts up the divine into pieces that are sundered from one another. Still, I suppose you could say that Arniel cut himself out of the Dragonborn's dragon break. Perhaps this lends credence to why only Arniel Gane was sundered from his body and tied to the LDB, and not all Bretons. He leads an excavation at the tomb of Saarthal and will hope to experiment with Kagrenac's tools, the latter of which he is highly secretive of. So after Arniel Gane disappears at the end of the Arniel's endeavor quest, what happens to him? The Dwemer disappeared, yet so did Arniel Gane. Find Arniel Gane [edit | edit source] Head through the doorway that is directly in front and follow the long winding corridor to another large cavern. That's why we can now summon his ghost. 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